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Region: Published: May 21, 2018  Updated: May 21, 2018 at 8:42 am EST

Pope Francis in a conversation with a victim of clerical sexual abuse stated that his sexuality “does not matter,” and that “God made you like that and loves you like this.” The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin; however, the Pope appears to be displaying his acceptance of homosexuality in his latest rebuke of Scripture.

While the Pope is correct that God does love all people, the Bible also clearly indicates that a foundational change must take place within all people who are called to the faith. Scripture calls homosexuality a sin but states that it can be forgiven just as other sins can be forgiven.

In 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Paul describes that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and further states that such were some of you, but a change has taken place because you have been washed and turned towards the truth, through repentance.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

The verse above speaks specifically to effeminate men, in addition to other forms of sin. For the Pope to comment that no change is needed for a man proclaiming to be a homosexual is the latest remark by the Pope that indicates his acceptance of homosexuality.

Juan Carlos Cruz is a victim of clergy sexual abuse and spoke privately with the pontiff last week about the happenings that he suffered at the hands of a Chilean priest.

During the conversation, the Pope reportedly said; “Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and loves you like this, and I don’t care. The Pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”

The topic of Mr. Cruz’s sexuality arose during their conversation because some of Chile’s bishops had attempted to label him as a pervert who was lying about the abuse. During a phone conversation with El Pais Mr. Cruz was asked if he spoke about his sexuality to which Mr. Cruz responded (the following has been translated);

“Yes, we speak. He had been told practically that I was a wicked person. There I explained that I am not the reincarnation of San Luis Gonzaga but I am not a bad person, I try not to hurt anyone. He told me “Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and he loves you like that and I do not care. The Pope wants you like that, you have to be happy with who you are.”

Again for the Pope to reportedly deny the reality of sin regarding homosexuality is yet another sign that the Catholic Church is disregarding Scripture for the whims of culture. Regardless of the circumstance surrounding the conversation, this is not the first time that the Pope has suggested his acceptance of homosexuality, in an interview in 2013 the Pope told journalists;

“If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him? You should not discriminate against or marginalize these people.”

79 Comments "Pope Francis Has Said that Being a Homosexual “Does Not Matter,” ‘God made you like this and loves you like this’"

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Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
tasdgs
tasdgs
No one is condoning violence but you also have to realize that active sodomites are highly likely to contract a severe STD, including AIDS, and… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
I think u miss th point. Ofcourse th outcome of any unrepentant sinner, whether homosexual or adulterer is known… eternal judgement. Therefore all sin including… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
Repent your sick obsession with controlling other people’s sex lives. You will not be forgiven for driving generations upon generations of gay and trans children… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
Tru, we are called to repentance. Romans1:18-28, including homosexuals. Irs a lie to assume tht someone was born gay. Thts pseudoscience or false science. Its… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
But how do you know if he actually said the things that he reportedly said? Could not have Cruz been mistaken as to his recollection… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
Its unlikely tht th Pope can condemn a homosexual. He has to find a convincing reason since his church has a permanent position in th… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
Eagle asteers the Nest wrote, “Its unlikely tht th Pope can condemn a homosexual.” But it’s the sin that is condemned, not the sinner. Fortunately… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

The patriarchy has you, FYI. And incest is a far greater sin than homosexuality.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
I think CJ has already covered this great misdeed, with perceivable sincerity. But frm my professional point of view, such sins take long to deal… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs

Both are very great sins and cry out to God for vengeance.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

You do not have any right to take vengeance against gay people just for being gay. Turn your vengeance against those who molest children, instead.

tasdgs
tasdgs

I agree. For those who have homosexual inclination, no.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
What do you think that condemning homosexuality is going to accomplish, exactly, besides driving gay children to suicide or murder at the hands of their… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
I hope that they do not commit suicide or that they are murdered but it also has to be remembered that homosexual act are immoral… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

The same goes for heterosexual people who think that everyone is obligated to follow THEIR religion, not their own.

tasdgs
tasdgs

What is “their religion”? If heterosexuals live in adultery and are promiscuous then they will go to hell if they die unrepentant.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

According to *your* religion. You do know that others exist which are less totalitarian, yes?

tasdgs
tasdgs

Yes but are they true? If so, how do you know?

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Same way you know that your religion is “true”: you don’t. Stop imposing your beliefs on others.

tasdgs
tasdgs
Charlotte McFarland wrote, “Same way you know that your religion is “true”: you don’t.” We have the consistent teaching of Sacred Tradition, dating back to… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Because your homophobic bigotry results in parents murdering their own children, just for being gay,

tasdgs
tasdgs
But I also have said that gay people needed to be treated with love and respect. Would a homophobe say that? It is not the… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
I’ll believe that when I see any evidence whatsoever. I think you just made that up for attention, to make yourself feel better. Saying that… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
Charlotte McFarland wrote, “I think you just made that up for attention, to make yourself feel better.” That really happened this morning. “Saying that homosexuality… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
Evidence? No? Then I don’t believe you. I am a recovering ex-Christian, who is sick and tired of Christians imposing their homophobic beliefs on others.… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
1. You can believe as you will. 2. Do you think that Christians are tired of atheists trying to impose their pro-homosexual beliefs on them?
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Who cares? Get tortured to death, for all I care, just like all those innocent people in Chechnya.

tasdgs
tasdgs

So you do not care if atheists try to impose their beliefs on us? I will agree that it is wrong to torture people.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Calling homosexuality a sin is psychological torture that leads to gay people being murdered. No, I don’t care if my existence hurts your feelings.
https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/07/21/no-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender-not-sin/

tasdgs
tasdgs

So if I call a murderer a “murderer” because he committed a vile sin does that lead to psychological torture for the murderer?

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
I am calling you a murderer, right now, for the sin of spreading vile, hateful lies that get gay people killed. Do you feel psychologically… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

Th prominence of one person only always raising such concerns is interesting, in itself

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
The prominence of one errant religion preaching against gay people is only interesting in that you should all be in jail for crimes against humanity.… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
I see that you have totally ignored my reasoning. How in the heck am I a murderer? If you are worried about getting gay people… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland
You know absolutely nothing about the “gay lifestyle”, or how STDs are transmitted (straight people get them, too, FYI). You are spouting lies about how… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
Charlotte McFarland wrote, “You know absolutely nothing about the “gay lifestyle”, or how STDs are transmitted (straight people get them, too, FYI).” I never stated… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Obviously.

tasdgs
tasdgs

I hope that you find your way back to Christianity.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
Of course as sinners we stand condemned until we repent. “Repent or perish”…scripture says. We are not condemned if we repent. I heard that frm… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
Eagle asteers the Nest wrote, “I don’t agree with your Holy See concept. No holy one or thing except th Lord Jesus Christ” We both… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

Very interesting positions there. Now I kno where I am. Nite CJ.

tasdgs
tasdgs

Have a good evening.

Blessings

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Speaking of false science, don’t you people think that a virgin gave birth?

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

Perfect Nate.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
In addition to Nate’s answer, th original pls of reproduction was to by th Word. This is what we saw later, when Jesus was conceived.… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
Yes. By the power of the Holy Spirit she conceived God incarnate. Also, true science is not the enemy of the Christian Faith. True science… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
What about condoning sodomy in which thousands are contracting deadly diseases and rectal cancer? If you did love homosexuals you would be telling them about… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

Indeed! How about?

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Straight people contract STDs, too, FYI.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
My dear, sorry, I mean it and not cajoling u. I think u miss th point. Everyone get th infection without protection and more so… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
I never said that they didn’t. They need to practice chastity as well. Sex should be between one man and one woman who are married… Read more »
Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

Spoken like a man who doesn’t have to worry about getting pregnant.

tasdgs
tasdgs

But, if I was true to myself, I do bear the responsibility of the child that I helped to conceive.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

With someone you never once had sex with before you were married? Such an arrangement seems unlikely to stand the test of time.

tasdgs
tasdgs

No. I waited to my wedding night. Going on 14 yrs.

Charlotte McFarland
Charlotte McFarland

That’s adorable. Tell that to my parents, who divorced after 25 years of abuse and incest.

tasdgs
tasdgs

Sorry to hear that. May Our Lord grant you peace.

Blessings.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

Amen.

Mike miller
Mike miller
Yes God loves the sinner but hate sin and being gay is a sin if a homosexual loves God he will cange hes or her… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
Tht’s th right way bro. Mike. Th pontiff is simply a blind leader leading th blind, spiritually. Ddn’t Jesus Christ condemn sodom and Gomorrah? Who… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
But how do you know,for sure, that the Pope said this? Could not have Cruz been mistaken? Could he have gotten the facts wrong of… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest

True, but isn’t he th same Pope reported to hav expressed intentions to change th old testament record in order to basically accommodate th homosexuals?

tasdgs
tasdgs

Not to my knowledge. He does not have the authority to do so.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
109 Then He came down and taken upon Himself. And while He did that, He did that that He might save you who wants to… Read more »
Steve Weatherbe
Steve Weatherbe

The comments were reported by whom?

Over There
Over There

Spoken by the head of a satanic cabal that specializes in raping and molesting little boys.

tasdgs
tasdgs
A lot of news agencies are saying, “He reportedly said.” There is a big difference in “reportedly saying” and “actually saying.” “Reportedly saying” would not… Read more »
Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
We know his tricks. One of these Popes is gonna come out in the open and say he is God according to scripture. Remember his… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs
But that does not say that on his crown, when he wore one. Also, if the Pope did come out and say that he was… Read more »
Punisher
Punisher

The Pope is an apostate. He will be the False Prophet.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
True. Pope system is in th scripture as th antichrist. The catholic system teaches tht the Pope is infallible. Obviously their historical behaviour doesn’t support… Read more »
tasdgs
tasdgs

Do you even know what the Catholic Church actually teaches regarding Papal infallibility? What the Pope allegedly said was not an infallible statement.

Eagle asteers the Nest
Eagle asteers the Nest
Th Pope isn’t infallible indeed. In fact right now, he’s deep in heresy! Misleading those tht go with such homosexual misunderstandings. Th Bible is clear… Read more »
Yon
You’re just deceived and blind. The pope did say homosexuality is okay not reportedly he did say it look it up the interview he had… Read more »

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